Why does XP STINK ? (the list is endless, but  here are some opinions) XP has over 700 Exploits !
MS killed dead XP support on : April 8, 2014
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You love XP, but reality happens !

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MS Windows, XP   is now 17 years old and counting from (2001 to now) and MS (Microsoft) ended support  long ago on  April 8, 2014
Support means full support even phone calls !  The only support now, or future, is the Service pack 3 and few old patches, all now frozen in the sands of time.

MS = MICROSOFT every time I use that 2 letter abbreviation... bingo.

XP peaked at 77% and now is below 2% (falling like brick, RIP)
Vista peaked at 23% and is now below 0.45%  12/2016 (RIP)



First the good things:( I will not talk about or cover MS OFFICE or MS games or  other MS applications"
  • Your PC came new with XP it rans for 16 long years, what more do you expect? "egg in your beer"?
  • Activation at MS still works. (that is if the key was not stolen by evil others using a KEYGENs !) oops, now you get to buy a new XP? wow....MS will not help you now.
  • MS still has online support for  service patch 3, and no newer patches forever... (making XP a  virus magnet)
  • The MS Online Plug&Play Drivers servers are mostly dead , but some are there, I call them remnants (  , I ran many tests to discover this. and proved it.
  • XP will run only  IE 8 .(max)  There is no IE11 for XP and E8 is frozen in Virus Magnet mode. (run Firefox V56 and up) So is a non issue if you run new Firefox)
  • If you lost your XP install disk like most folks did  after 16 long years, I made a  MONSTER XP disk   here. << has all SATA drivers to it can run on most PC's.
  • If you buy matching (used) HP install media for you HP the OS will load, with no problems, that is because HP modified the media to support your HP, but actual MS disks do not.
  • If you don't have an internet connection, XP is always safe, ( you are not loading infected software from CD or floppy or USB stick , that is)
  • XP runs the Solitaire game all day safe.
  • AVG Antivirus company still supports XP.
Now the  bad things: (and growing) XP is rife with pitfalls, endless... seen them all I have... (most can be fixed driver wise)
  1. Microsoft (MS) direct support has ended on Retail , XP support,  but not the military versions.(uncle sam has paid contracts here  US.GOV has for 30  millions of  bucks.+ )
  2. New devices added to your PC will not be supported by MS, (eg. a new USB device, that most no longer support XP, like a new Wifi USB Dongle device)
  3. No new updates, from MS.  It is the end of the road for XP.
  4. XP does not like newer hardware, even most SATA chips are dead, loading XP with out real HP disk sets or the F11 key Recovery. See my SATA fix. XP monster cure..
  5. XP (SP0) 2001 has over 700 exploits ! and far less with SP3 !
  6. XP SP1 home also bad at  109 exploits   
  7. XP IE8 (ends there) is full of danger and is a Virus Magnet,  run Firefox v56 +
  8. XP has zero day exploits that will NOT be corrected, says MS ! <<< read that carefully !
  9. XP  INSTALLER asks for  F6   Floppy for missing drivers, (skip this until later is the cure but not if SATA drives missing see line 4 above.)
  10. XP installed fresh (if it even can be) get the drivers seen here. See here for Drivers.
  11. Microsoft Security Essentials MSE ,updates work, but may be frozen, IDK (most folks say frozen , but do your own research here)
  12. Microsoft is not now taking XP phone calls.... and for sure claims of your COA key was stolen if true, as many are.  (this can be a real show stopper, your KEY stolen) forcing you to virus infected KEY GENS. ouch.
  13. MRT.exe , MS Malware software removal tool. patches. I think is  now frozen. (to mid 2015 year final release)
  14. Many of the top forums , the members flat refuse to discuss  XP at all. (with the terse UPGRADE it, bozo )
  15. The is no MS "Defender" for XP.
  16. If you call your PC maker, you will learn , NO XP SUPPORT NOW.  Check it out.!
HP deleted XP support but there are some exceptions. Here is one, on a 15 year old HP PC. D510 SFF desktop (wow)  If this link is dead, that means 15 years is too old (LOL)

To hell with facts, I eat danger for breakfast ! you say?,  sure....

To run XP you need the best 3rd party malware A/V  package  there is, AVG paid version comes to mind. (or ESET)!

Never run XP with out SP3 loaded. (know to that SP3 has libraries full of new drivers inside too , that can help a few folks get some old PnP drivers loaded )
Never Run the last XP IE8, ever, run the newest FIREFOX v56+ . (avoid Internet Exploder, totally!) IE8 max only installs on SP2 or 3, but do not run IE anything here.
Do not run Browers of any kind that is just a shell for IE6,7,8,  or you will be sorry! RUN FIREFOX v56+
Never run with out the XP   Ransom-ware patch for  . WANNACRY!
Never run lacking a hardware firewall in your  router turned on , and all incoming ports turned off , inside said router fire wall.
Never run XP  with the XP software firewall disabled. (and with incoming ports OFF)
Vista is dead and died Spring 2017 , get Windows 7 (or higher)
W7(& up):
Many chips used say in 2002 , the chip maker never created W7 drivers. ( there are cures, but may take a new PCI card to replace the dead chip with newer working card, function and W7 drivers)
If you have  Desktop you can put in a new video PCI card, or a new wifi or ethernet card and get the PC running on say W7 that way, On Laptops you can buy USB wifi/ethernet dongles.
This can be done to get an old XP box running ok on say W7.

XP install disk hell:
MS XP will tell you at install time  (not HP disks) and show ERRORs : no HDD found (HardDiskDrive) Top reason? No SATA chip drivers on the CD.
(the worst disk is a real MS XP from yeaer 2001, the best disk  is with SP3 on the CD label, but is still very very weak on drives.) (not the offical HP disk called the HP media kit  it does work prefectly)

The XP install errors ,  for HDD DRIVE  not found, 
  • Bad HDD or cables to it fell off.(desktops have 2 cables there)
  • The SATA chips there are not supported directly with SETUP.exe (MS Install program) Use my  the Monster CD mentioned here.
  • The HDD has the wrong format and is not blank, and empty. (I use the Dban boot CD to erase all HDD that are not truely empty first.)  Microsoft does not see HDD from Apple or linux , formatted that way.
  • The HDD is turned off in BIOS,  (on most HP PC it can't be turned off but on other brands most can be, or is a HP workstation PC or server)
  • Using MS disks   marked upgrade only and you are attempting a fresh install.
  • Using HP disks and the drive is bad or not blank. (or full or no room for a fresh install of XP)
  • Using say, Dell disks on and HP computer.

 Links that can help (mine and  others)"
The MS drivers are gone but...
But all old MS OS updates/patches and for sure SP3 are still there   (I tested it End AUG 2017 and it's a GO , tested with WSUS app.)

    Many drivers page shows how to get them no matter what , if possible at all, Some are NOT!

    If you chip maker never made Vista or W7 up drivers, there will be no drivers for that  chip that does not work.
    Example are NIC (LAN) WLAN (WIFI) , SOUND, SATA , Even some very old GPU (video) chips and many more..

    See my  SATA comments on this page)


    Plug and Play, XP,  (pray):  TESTING by me...   Summer 2017 to see WHAT's UP and what is NOT UP.
    See my XP  search here at MS on topic.

    I am only testing 2 things here, (the local driver cache and then the Microsoft PnP on line driver cashe servers (driver cat.'s)
    XP is now dead for 3 years (zero support)
    First off , sadly Microsoft does not allow
    you to look insider there WHQL  PnP Driver servers, (MS called it  the Driver Catalogs, when I asked them)  
    They treat us like the (man behind the curtain  (WIZ of OZ);
    They flat refused, to allow me to just look  at  drivers there, like I can with OS patches and  update servers, to see, just the driver NAME and version and source, that stinks, no? 
    There is a program that lets me see all MS OS XP updates, patches, and service packs but not DRIVERs ,  I had to device tricks to learn what is supported, seen below.
     
    To SEE WHAT XP can do , is tricky, I must fool the loaded fresh OS and MS to do this. (but is not too hard) see below:
    What I have  is box full of old devices, USB, PCI, and even old express cards. (my huge attic collections from long long ago are still there.
    I have a parked 2004 Old PC, but has both PCI and PCI-express slots for a far batter scope of testing.
    I try to find a card that XP can not match a driver, (internet disconnected first)
    There are 2 tests possible one no Service packs on the install disk and one with the SP3 pack, its totally silly and a waste of time to test the 2001 release of XP, forget that.
    In my testing if the LAN was dead I switched to a working first WIFI and attempted to find the missing LAN chip driver from the MS servers, and found out even that can fail.  (the classic chicken and egg conundrum)
    I have lots of cards, over 30 , and most fail,  (like a 3COM Card and many more or and S3 Video card)
    The test is to see , "Is the the driver needed in the LOCAL cache and if not can we get it from the MS online PNP cache servers)  In that order.  (network dead starting, no WWW !)

    TESTING 123: (in short, see link below for full tests methods)
    • I start with all internet dead, off line. (no lan, no wifi) (freshly loaded XP +SP3 on the PC and in most cases has I and to  force feed the missing SATA driver or used and OLD PATA HDD)
    • The OS basically runs now but there are missing chip drivers, as expected.
    • I did tests to all PCI cards in my box 1 by 1 (or chips on board) I make sure the XP Local driver cache fails for THIS CARD then(thus forcing my live XP to look online , on the internet to one of these MS secret servers)
    • I found out that on average 1/2 the drivers fail.  (It seems 2001 Cards run but anything much newer can fail and do fail hard, (locally, and is my desire to do that here)
    • Once I land here, with new card that fails locally I next plug in my (yes working) LAN cable to my NIC port and see if MICROSOFT PnP fails, and it does most the time, (MS told me it will get worse)
    • Even the most common Intel Lan chips fail, Pro100. 82801 ICH5 (very damning this fact and a very big pain not having the Internet up at the get go... but I can and did force feed it from here.)
    The Pro 100 chip drivers , the 82801EB above is 2003 chip so in 10 long years (2003-2013), MS failed to support the very common chip used on vast millions of PC both desk and laptop. (seems they shut down the server!)
    Really the ICH5 chip is and Acid test for that dead MS PnP DRIVER server if ever there was...a 2003, chip. (not in the local cache, nor at MS.com)! 
    The PnP support for XP is now offline or almost off line now, (read DEAD)
    The proofs I did are to use cards that were supper common all years of XP life, 2001 to 2007 range. (before VISTA) this proves the the local and remote driver cache's are dead, if all cards fail. 
    What matters is the Remote cache, on MS servers.  (after all  any 2007 driver will not be in the local cache , as it was not invented yet) 


    Conclusions..
    Plug & Play for XP  only  partially works today (tested Aug, 2017)

    What can work is stated below,  getting the drivers the hard way can work. (but no blood from a stone sure)  If none were made then there are none.
     
    See my driver page on my tests and  how 
    XP drivers can be found and do  function, and see the Monster XP CD that loads on any SATA based system.
    I ran PnP  tests and proved that on this date. ( It's like the old kids movie.  "The endless story" and the NOTHING is coming ! Soon to a XP near you. 

    THE CURE: (W7 sure but..)
    Using these tools
    I built and XP monster install disk with all key drivers the SATA chips and   LAN chips; tops my list , ethernet chip must work out of the gate (install time)
    That  means I preloaded MS Service Pack 3, all LAN chips (ethernet)  (and all MASS storage  controllers (SATA CHIPS out the Wazoo and more... ) the disk loads now on most any PC I want.

    My  home made,  ISO still fits a CD-R.  cool.  (I sarted with a fresh new MS XP retail disk with virgin COA key , new in box, never opened)

    Keep XP off the internet, the net is now 100 times more dangerous today,  it's not 2001 or 1995 it is 2017,  go crazy and buy a used w7 PC for $25 go banana's

    XP is dead.  Some drivers can be found sure.
    XP is a Virus magnet.
    If W7 will not install on your old PC, the run Ubuntu  17+ for free.


    version7  8-21-2017             UNDER       all is this page is in my opinion only, and can change easy as the world  or MS changes.  This is not HP affiliated in anyway, nor MS.