I want to install my Operating System (OS) fresh . (100% HP centric)

                   The official HP Media kit site 
                   

                   If  you are changing out a mobo (motherboard) , see here.
                             I will attempt to show all ways, to do this, both right and wrong to illustrate why things can fail.
                             MS = Microsoft (OS = Operating System) OEM = Original Equipment Manufacture.(in our case means HP)

My list of FACTS:  can help.
  • 36 years of PC's  , you can't run new OS on old PCs and the reverse.  (with rare exceptions ) Example XP does not run on new intel chips. (there is no north/south bridge drivers at all for XP! ask intel , see?)
  • That same is true for W10 , in spades.
  • If you lost your install media back in year 2000?,what makes you think you can find it in say 2017 or beyond?  (you need the OEM disk and matching key (COA)?  Get lucky on Ebay?
  • The OS is not just one OS, by name , there are many versions sold and the COA keys must match  (even this must match , Starter, Home , PRO, Enterprise ) and OEM and RETAIL, VLK, technet)
  • Your Home PC came with Windows, OEM ,that is cheap discounted, Windows to HP, and means HP supports you not MS, that is why HP got a discount so only OEM discs work , by MS, DESIGN !
  • You can not use and OEM disk with a retail license or the reverse.  (with rare exceptions) The clincher is the Activation, they check the OEM key you enter and check your hardware and it must match to OEM.
  • MS now uses digital activation, total. For example, I upgraded my w7 OEM to W8 Pro Retail, now I upgraded to w10 and after 30 days my PC is now w10-pro with a stored key for just my PC.
  • If I replace my HDD, the PC activates in seconds online as W10 pro.. (MS serializes my PC in complex way)
  • Window 10 rules are not the same for legacy PCs. The Win10 install say 64bit (best) uses the KEY to active , retail, pro and beyond, W10 is way more flexible in this regard,  the old CD disks are NOT.
  • It's always best to activate last, do not tell the install program your COA key,  pick skip at install time.
  • If you decide to buy a Retail MS OS,  disk and install it , many of the drivers will be missing, for sure XP (it's dead) and for sure VISTA it to is PnP online dead.  (some times dead chip are no problem for you, sure)
  • If wise and use W7  media, PnP is alive and working and many MS drivers will load, but some HP drivers will be missing, including , wifi chip, security chip , the finger print reader, the hot key pad strip dead.(sound volume)
  • Not all is lost one can get the drivers at HP , 1 by 1 and load them , I have done this 1000s of times, but we find 10 years later the HP support site no more suport for our PC and means we must get them off the net.
  • If you have no driver for something critical , then find them from the maker, using this tactic. (if the only chip maker actual has no driver you are SOL, sorry out of luck.
  • I see driver sites (liars) that have drivers there that do not exist on all of mother earth, this is a virus or is them back filling wrong drivers there so they can fleece you for their stinking junk. (ugly place to be)




HP MEDIA:

COMPAQ:101 (legacy , and the name ended in 2013 forever)
The first facts to learn are Compaq  issues, "Compaq was acquired for US$25 billion by HP in 2002.[5][6] "(wiki says)
That date in important to you , in that, after that date, HP added the recovery partitions  for XP  and the F11 key to recover XP, before that date, only recover CD;s worked to restore the PC's OS.
HP sold these disks from 2001 to 2006 with almost real Microsoft Disk 1, of 2 or 3, the other 2 disk are HP drives , then HP apps.
I do not know the date that HP started putting on F11 recovery partitions to there COMPAQ labeled. PCs from 2002 to 2013 (2013 is the last Compaq I'm told. (my guess 2006)
HP also sold PC's with IBM OS2 and Linux and even Freedos. (back to 1984 even DOS !)
Microsoft TODAY, only supports W7 up.

All HP puters now... HP and Compaq:
HP the same  rule  but adds, over 10years old  from last one sold (not first), has no  support  (but always look first) HP has pages listing all Retired, legacy PCs.  (a 1 minute  look there and bingo)

The best way to load OS, is always F11 (2006 and newer PC's)   F11 Can fail for 2 reasons, the HDD is bad, or the PC was slammed.

  1. The HP F11 key   If the PCs HDD was SLAMMED?,  if this fails ? see the next line.
  2. From the HP web  site above. link.  The real HP official Media kit. ( but after 10+ years, this ends this support)( I think 10 years after this model was last sold, is the rule)
  3. Buy a $120 a MICROSOFT kit  in a box in a store. (real) or online.
  4. Or at Microsoft.com sells W7/W10 retail  but does not sell W7 in brick stores, and W7 is only offered at MS with only a real retail KEY , it asks you for the key or fails to download!
  5. One can find NOS disk say on EBAY, "new old stock" with retail keys, ( I just bought 2 like this (web stores) and it does load and run an activate)
  6. Microsoft does not sell OEM install media of any kind to the public, in fact typing that in on the MS W7 download page gets you FAILED. (then tells you call HP, and HP says 10 year rule Failed)
  7. This site is endorsed by WALMART,  Trinity Supplies.( finding good respected sources is not easy)
  8. There is a tiny chance you can find used, OEM HP disks for sale on ebay. but must match your PC,    OEM is what you have, and works with you PCs' OEM COA sticker license. Dell  CD used on HP will not work.,
  9. Go to some hackers site and buy some ISO's CD's or what ever.?  many are counterfeits.  (don't) most are full of Viruses, rootkits and malware. (AVOID! ) XP hacker sites are now INFINITE.
 
 
Windows 10 will fail on many older PC's. (10 years or older is nice  rule of thumb, but dead makers of chips, always wins the bet!) and dead makers of peripherals vast. MS is clear on the requirements!
2007 is the the year the first processors were w10 compliant (for security is why)

There is one more case here, installing OLD OS on new PC's , it will fail. (for 2 reasons, the PnP servers are down, and MS does not support new hardware on Vista or Older Windows)!!!

WOW ! (secret driver pages)
I found that HP has and FTP server full of drivers, as seen here.  (cool no?) (if you know your SP12345.exe file name,  well here they are.

This web page , here called "drivers4U"  , I found doing a site: search , points to the above HP server for , COMPAQ in this way.(hint change the name before my SITE: expression)


Why run XP?, it sucks.

 HP clearly does not sell recover kits for older PC's
The support page, see drivers and software, see bottom of page, and the missing media kit, there?  THOSE MISSING WORDS is your ONLY clue,  NO MEDIA SOLD now, 
HP does show qualified venders, and can change at any time or get larger,  ask HP for this personally, due to that stated dynamic issues.

 http://www.computersurgeons.com/p-13683-recovery-kit-5092-5943-for-hp-model-number-a6037c.aspx

 Your PC originally came with Vista 32 bit (or fill in the blank), and that is the only recovery disk set available.

 http://support.hp.com/us-en/product/HP-Pavilion-a6000-Desktop-PC-series/3376909/model/3419570/document/c00913686/


The time to buy recovery disks (or make them as the book that came with said PC told you day1) (the  burn your own CD method in both book or buy the media kit then)
 Is buy the disks from HP the first week of ownership, don't wait for 10 years then wonder why they are gone... (rend rant)


F11: (RECOVER)
This magic key is called HP Restore and Recovery, (it is just a Virtual CD hiding here in this partition )



F11 MAGIC (HP): HP RECOVERY PROCESS.
Power off, count to 60,  power on, hit F11 over and over, bingo?. (worst case way to get F11 going...) ( if the Laptop battery is bad , remove it  now)
If the PC was SLAMMED with  MICROSOFT (MS) disk OS, for any reason , update etc, the F11 key is now dead.  Microsoft will erase all HP's MAGIC.
F11 fails for these reasons:
  1. Older than 2006 many PC's do  not have it F11. Some only have a F10 key and needs media to work.(like seen on old COMPAQs)
  2. HDD is bad. or was bad long ago and replaced.
  3. The HDD is corrupted any of 1million ways.
  4. You gander at the partitions seen here and the recovery files are missing, if the HP tools is missing, then  the BIOS "Day1" recovery too , is now missing now. XP looked like this.( 16 long years ago, wow)

F11 is a Virtual install CD located on your brand new just bought  PC's hard drive. that is what it was. The BIOS knows where it is, and if you damage that linkage , F11 fails.

Microsoft still sells W7 , buy and find the 350 updates , good luck with that...
W10 , installing  it is free of cost at MS , do so , see if it  runs ok, if not remove it (inside 30 days if upgrade from W7). (only Activation costs money)
Really ,W10 is the better choice,  if possible?  (W10 does not support vast old erobsolete chips in your old PC, this is W10's only Achilles' heel)  PCs over 10 years old can be very very problematic.
In fact MS says 2013 is the dividing line on old. (if you expect little to work (expectations vary with humans) it can run fine.  (heck some only use there PC to  use notepad or only MS Solitare)
If you want W10 to look like an older OS?, try these ideas, run Windows classic shell on any PC W7 and newer and make it like you want,
This next linked page  covers slammed, BIOS FLASHING and lost BIOS PASSWORD cures.

I think only XP sucks! (see why here)


Legacy MEDIA 101:


Show and tell time.   ( a trip down memory lane... wow)
This is a REAL HP CD: In most cases this is just one disk in a set, unless it's a DVD.
HP began using there own disks starting in 2006 PC's by HP.
Next:

Early PCs from HP had a real MS disk 2001 to 2005, and had, many disks to load Windows then load drivers and then to load HP APP.s.  This practice bundling (MS disk from HP) ended in the year 2006.
This is  an OEM disk, and will only work with your OEM license key, (COA tab number)
A real OEM disk from MS. (not sold in stores, it's not a Retail disk.)
The missing disk , many times is the HP drivers disk and HP applications. 
 

The Windows XP disks were sold from 2001 to 2009 (mostly ) 
June 30, 2008, is the end date for Windows XP retail sales and OEM support disks.
In all cases you need a real Activation code, still required in the year now, 2017 from Microsoft.  A retail COA code is needed. (unless using  OEM disk from HP)
Buzz words seen on media for OEM are ReInstallation disk or for new PC only. 
(Retail disks install on any machine with your RETAIL COA KEY license)  No better license exists (home usage) Unless upgrading to PRO.
Learn that the activation codes for OEM very by PC maker and for RETAIL.
MS even checks your hardware to make sure the OEM disk matches your exact makers PC.  (checks BIOS serials  and other serial numbers inside your PC)
If say it saw a DELL BIOS , the setup aborts.
MS knows exactly what code you attempt to activate and what it was sold as (OEM or Retail, Schools, or VLK, etc)
This is a real Retail disk, sold in the real MS retail box. (last seen in 2009)
end real.(2002 example photo)


BOGUS DISKs, endless and now forever....and getting worse fast , I think MS no longer goes after XP counterfeiters,  but does mandate  good COA # and good activation still.

XP now has endless illegal disks, and ISO files sold illegally  all over the world, in fact some countries, are like 40% XP in uses, still and all are illegal. (pirated)
Gee they are truthful,  its a CRACK .! full of Cracker-Jack Virus...too. I bet.
My guess is MS just lets these folks stew in their own juices. (a toxic soup of viruses and more)  The folks that make this junk will cause XP to go useless more quickly. (my crystal ball)

Keep in mind MS forces Activation of XP still in 2017 , even when all other support is DEAD. 
XP PnP servers are now down.
MS XP activation is UP
MS XP support is zero , no phone calls taken .(unless you have a million dollar contact like our DOD has)
Same deal with VISTA.

Vista Released in 2007, and HP in the year 2006 shipped only HP logo marked Install disks (as stated above (my crude history lessons)
There is  64bit one too... and must MATCH your PC's precessor.
The MS (means Microsoft) disk will need all HP drivers, No MS disk ever has all drivers on earth.  A fact.
  If the HP site has no support for your over 20 years old PC then you may spend days finding a valid drivers. (infected too)
This DVD many need other HP CD to run, ask HP for help when using correct matching media like this.
HP has a manual online telling how to use your media. below.





A CURE:
The cure most times , is upgrade to at least W7
By the Retail CD or stick and use it.


C.O.A:

In all cases you need this,  a COA code. This is  OEM code. and is useless for Retail disks. (this tag is neutered)   Certificate of Authority, means you personal license for your MACHINE.
as seen on bottom of any HP laptop. or one side of a Desktop case.
Some times hidden in  big battery compartment hatch or its lid.
When you activate this code MS assigns you a product ID.As seen below... This ID shows up in the control panel , click the system ICON there.

In the same vein,  what about OEM versions of Windows.  (OEM to RETAIL)?
As you can see Retail is complex, but not when you buy the box off the shelf. (you get code 292 up)
Windows 7  the product key is xxx 3 digits.  (click control panel, and see System Icon , that and see Product ID )
XXX = OEM is , OEM license
My free upgrade upgrade from W7 to W10 , all of them OEM all commuted to Retail, after the free Microsoft upgrade to W10 .
 The proof is TYPED, , slmgr.vbs /dlv command tells you in line 2 of the displayed window "retail" (under cmd.exe prompt window)

If you had to change your mother board, (it blew up) get another, and call Microsoft, and tell them to activate it,  many folks have done this, Microsoft feels your pain if the MOBO blows up.  Why would they not?
But yes the digital activation fails,  and sure, computers never feel you pain.
 Call them don't be shy, you have a real OEM license; you are not a crook.  (in fact a victum of 1 of 3 billion transistors going POP goes the weasel !..)  Bad luck only.... Call em' let them FEEL your pain....



The rules for Hardware changes are only 1/2 a secret. 
4 to 8 major parts are not in any way a secret,but the weighting of them is a secret. 
One way to be safer here is change one part at a time.
Replace a part,  any part, and then boot and see if actvated is false.
if false, push activate if fails call MS
then replace another parts, do not replace all parts at once.
The rules changed in time. This is  from MS pages.

The following changes are examples of hardware changes that will not impact the activation status:

  • HDD/SSD
  • Video card
  • Adding extra memory

 

The only hardware changes that can negatively impact the activation status once you upgrade are changes to the:

  • CPU
  • TPM  (the security chip linked to BIOS)   (  if fitted at all 2012 up))
  • Motherboard replacement  (call them and tell MS the MOBO smoked, and is in the trash) BINGO A WIN.
Best read on this topic is here.

The PC has many hidden serial numbers inside that MS used to make up a hash code.
MAC addresses  (your NIC is serialized as does the WIFI chips)
BIOS versions, etc. (and maker)
HDD serials. (using STAT bus commands ! )
DDR memory IDs
PCI scans of your PC you can see all this magic data hidden inside all PC. PnP scans to that.
Now the new TPMchip has codes stored. (my guess this is #1 prime target now for Microsoft)  BTW just popped in a i7 in place of my i5 processor and MS never blinked a wink.... so....
And last UEFI BIOS now has the MS COA NUMBER , license stored there too.  (In fact MS can check this first and see if you have license quickest)
Best is not to worry, just now that the phone call , you tell them X smoked and is not wrecked.  (I put in a brand new and newer (sure) motherboard.

The only secret is the WEIGHTING of changes in hardware (swaps), allowed.  (so change parts 1 by  1) win.
In all cases, I have made radical changes to my PC and called MS and they 100% GO on the change, (On the horn: dear MS , my MOBO burned up,  no problem , you are now activated)
They will not do that on OEM licenses, in many or all cases. Retail is best, as always, forever.

The new world order... LOL ( new PC's have no DVD drive now on laptops and worst of all NOTEBOOKS)
They are too thin now.
 This USB STICK  runs faster,  and not subject to CD scratches, etc.  (you can make your own stick)! Down load W10 and run it,  for 30 days, no license needed for 30 full days. 100% free. (well buy  stick)



The wrong disks for HP are,  using DELL or Toshiba MEDIA (or other OEM  PC makers disks) are all useless.


version 1.  5-9-2017 (retired pukes mussings)